Moss Roses and Centifolia Roses or Cabbage Rose, one of the four Ancient Classes of Roses that are commonly referred to as Old Roses, propagated and grown for our Retail Plant Sale, Mail Order or by appointment.at Azalea House Flowering Shrub Farm in Voorheesville, NY 12186 with links to more information and pictures. Susceptible to mildew, the flowers may be spoiled in wet weather, many need support for the heavy flowers but have unbelievable fragrance. If the pictures dont open click here.
#182 Anais Segales (1837) & #005 Autumn Damask Four Seasons Rose (<1600)
![]()
191 Rosa Centifolia, 'Cabbage Rose' (<1600) & 134 'Crested Moss', 'Cristata', 'Chapeau de Napoleon' (1827)
#023) 'Fantin Latour' Centifolia Rose (<1900)
![]()
187 'Henri Martin', 'Red Moss', moss rose (1862) & #066) 'William Lobb', 'Old Velvet Moss', 'Duchesse d'Istrie' Moss Rose' (1855)
![]()
'Alfred de Dalmas ("Classic Roses" Beales, sh:90, fl:174), ("Growing Roses Organically" Wilde, 127, zones 4-10, DR-1/0),Moss, 3x2, pink, 1855
#182 Anais Segales zone 4 thru 8, 4 feet by 4 feet, introduced by Bibert in 1837, strongly fragrant double pinkish red flowers bloom for several weeks in late spring to early summer around Voorheesville. ("Roses" Beales, 145),
#005 Autumn Damask, Quatre Saisons, Four Seasons, Castilian, Old Castilian, Rose des Quatre Saisons, Rosa bifera, Rosa bifera semperflorens, Rosa damascena bifera, Rosa damascena semperflorens, Rosa semperflorens, Rose of Castille, zones 4 thru 10, 4 feet tall, double pink flowers bloom for several weeks in late spring to early summer followed by another flush of bloom later in the summer, introduced before 1600, ("The Organic Rose Garden" Druitt, 110) ("Growing Roses Organically" Wilde, 129, zones 4-10, DR-1/1) (Taylor's Guides "Roses" Ondra, page 43, zones 4-7), ("Landscaping with Antique Roses" Druitt & Shoup, page 40 & 133, zone 4),
191 Rosa Centifolia, 'Cabbage Rose', zones 4 thru 9, 6 feet by 5 feet, strongly fragrant pink hundred petaled flowers bloom for several weeks in late spring to early summer, introduced before 1600, Go to Rosa centifolia for inventory numbers.
134 'Crested Moss', 'Cristata', 'Chapeau de Napoleon' Centifolia Rose zones 5 thru 9, 4 feet by 4 feet, introduced in 1827, fragrant 3 inch double flowers bloom for several weeks in late spring to early summer, (Sunset Book "Roses" White, 102), (Taylor's Guides "Roses" Ondra, page 62, zones 5-9)
187 Henri Martin (1862), 'Red Moss', moss rose, zones 4 thru 8, 5 feet x 5 feet (laffay, ), non recurrent, 2.5 inch strongly fragrant reddish semi double to double flowers
107) MME DE LA ROCHE-LAMBERT Moss Rose (1851), ("The Art of Gardening With Roses" Thomas, sh61), ("Classic Roses" Beales, fl:180), Moss Rose, 4 to 5 feet tall, mid summer flush of bloom followed by a continuous production of later flowers, Thomas seems to think it a hybrid of the Perpetual Damask Moss, good scent,
53) 'SALET'_Moss Rose, non recurrent,
145 Soupert et Notting, Perpetual flowering Damask Moss, (1874) zone 5, 3 feet tall, non-recurrent, pink,
189 Tour de Malakoff (1857), (Taffeta Rose) centifolia, zone 4 thru 9 6 feet x 5 feet, non-recurrent, strongly fragrant, purplish
#066) 'William Lobb', 'Old Velvet Moss', 'Duchesse d'Istrie' Moss Rose' zones 4 thru 9, 7 feet tall, introduced by Laffay of France in 1855, fragrant old fashioned red double flowers bloom for severral weeks in late spring to early summer around Voorheesville, ("Classic Roses" Beales, fl:183),
As Lilacs, Roses, Rhododendrons and Azaleas start to bloom I take closeup pictures of the flower, insert a caption that includes the date the picture was taken and plant name, then post it somewhere in the several hundred pages of my web site. Then I send a link to it, to all my subscribers in an email reply to an email they previously sent me. People who want to seriously consider coming to the plant sale should Email me about being added to the list of subscribers as some plants sell out soon after being listed. When you are a subscriber you receive advance notice of plants in bloom or if we open early (caused by early blooming) when you follow the email provided link back to the picture-newsletter.
Smart buyers buy it in bloom. So I've set up the flowering shrub farm to be open when most of the plants we grow are in bloom. I dont sell plants that haven't bloomed previously so we can verify the variety. We have the picture-newsletter so that my customers will know when the plants they are interested in are in bloom.
When you email me I take that email message and place it in a Mailbox (labeled with your first and last name and what plant your interested in) on my Mac Laptop computer. Later when I am sending the picture-newsletter I click on your last email, click "reply" and "paste" a copy of the link in the reply. I will continue to send links whenever I have a picture-newsletter for a long time but you can guarentee that I send more by sending me additional emails with more information on what your interested in.
CHOOSING, GROWING and CARING for ROSES in the NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES is my article on growing roses in the capital district.
Scots Roses 'A Personal Crusade in Search of Scots Roses' by Peter D. A. Boyd is available at http://www.peterboyd.com/rosapimp6.htm
Look up books that have pictures of these roses. If you look you will see they dont always agree on hardiness. But its good to read what they have said in order to have greater insight into what you choose. Most of these people experienced these roses in areas of the world other than yours.
ROSE PHOTO BOOKS
The prescence of a book on this list does not indicate that I agree with the methods or information provided by the author. Its just that they have a picture of the rose in question on the page indicated. These books were chosen either because they were already in my library, a picture was included that I'd had some difficulty finding, or because I try to pick as diverse books as possible not knowing what will be easily available to you where you are. Each book has a little blurb by me at the end that you might take as a short review.
("Roses of America" Scanniello), "Roses of America" by Stephen Scanniello and Tania Bayard, photography by Albert Squillace, The Brooklyn botanic Gardens guide to our national flower. copyright 1990 by Sammis. publishing Corp., ISBN 0-8050-1241-9, A+, well done, good source. Stephen and Company has done it again. current page I'm cataloging on is 94. Planting where another rose has been:page 173, Pruning:178, training a rambler:page 180, winter protection for climbers, tree roses etc:190.
("Growing Roses Organically" Wilde), "Growing Roses Organically" by Barbara Wilde, Illustrations by Michael Gellatly and Adam McCauley, Distributed in the Book Trade by St. Martins Press, ISBN 0-87596-880-5, A+, well done, All done.
("The Art of Gardening With Roses" Thomas), "The Art of Gardening With Roses" by Graham Stuart Thomas with Photographs by Bob Gibbons a John Macrae Book, Henry Holt and Company, New York 1991, ISBN 0-8050-1533-7, A+, I love this book.
("Roses, Old Roses and Species Roses" Cruse), "Roses Old Roses and Species Roses", Photographs by Paul Starosta, Text by Eleonore Cruse, ISBN 3-8228-7761-1 printed in Italy beautifully intense photos.
("The Natural Rose Gardener" Walheim), "The Natural Rose Gardener" by Lance Walheim many pictures I couldn't find elsewhere.
(Sunset Book "Roses" White), "Roses" by Hazel White published by Sunset ISBN 0-376-03659-1
("Climbing Roses Of The World" Quest-Ritson), "Climbing Roses Of The World" by Charles Quest-Ritson Timber Press 2003, ISBN 0-88192-563-2, A+, A really fine source. many pictures I couldn't find elsewhere. A well designed book that I am glad to have in my personal Library. Well worth the $35 I paid.
("500 Popular Roses For American Gardeners" Barron's), "500 Popular Roses For American Gardeners" published in 1999 by Barron's Educational Series ISBN 0-7641-0851-4 many pictures I couldn't find elsewhere.
("Beautiful American Rose Gardens" Dorra). "Beautiful American Rose Gardens" by Mary Tonetti Dorra, photographs by Richard Felber, Clarkson Potter publishers in New York. copyright 1999 by Mary Tonetti Dorra, photographs copyright 1999 by Richard Felber ISBN 0 -- 609 -- 60080 -- although it has many fine pictures its propensity toward hybrid teas and the confusion innate in every photo as far as identifying which rose is which, makes this book hard to use.
("The Organic Rose Garden" Druitt), "The Organic Rose Garden" by Liz Druitt, Photography by Virginia Brown, Taylor Publishing Co., Dallas, Copyright 1996, ISBN 0-87833-906-X, A+, I enjoyed reading this years ago. It still is filled with all sorts of good information. One thing to remember is that she gardens in Texas (a milder climate than the Northeast).
("David Austin's English Roses" Austin), "David Austin's English Roses" by David Austin, Photographs by Clay Perry, text copyright 1993 by David Austin, published by Conran Octopus Limited in Great Britain, ISBN 0-316-05975-7 A+, current page I'm on is 96.
("Designing With Roses" Lord), "Designing With Roses" Tony Lord, Copyright Frances Lincoln Limited 1999, Text Copyright by Tony Lord in 1999, Trafalgar Square Publishing, North Pomfret, VT 05053, ISBN 1-57076-148-5, A+, showing high quality pictures of the whole plant combined with perennials, shrubs and more. Im done. Every rose picture is now listed here.
("Classic Roses" Beales), "Classic Roses" by Peter Beales, published by Holt, Rinehart and Winston of 383 Madison Avenue in New York City 10017, Copyright in 1985 by Peter Beales, ISBN 0-03-006022-2, A+, I got this copy through the interlibrary loan system from Bethlehem Public Library, 451 Deleware Ave, Delmar, NY 12054. Certainly one of the most comprehensive works dedicated to the Rose. I'm done. Every rose picture is in this list. (out of 432 pages).
("Growing Roses For Small Gardens" Gibson), "Growing Roses For Small Gardens" by Michael Gibson, published by Timber Press, 9999 S.W. Wilshire, Portland, Oregon 97225 1990, ISBN 0-88192-186-6, Got this directly from Timber Press in 1991.
(Taylor's Guides "Roses" Ondra), Taylor's Guides "Roses" by Nancy J. Ondra, published by Houghton Mifflin Company, ISBN 0-618-06888-0, good pictures and hardiness zones. I'm on page 191.
("The Encyclopedia of Roses" McKeon), "The Encyclopedia of Roses" by Judith C. McKeon, published by Rodale Press, Emmaus, PA 18098 ISBN 0-87596-656-X, Got this from The Voorheesville Public Library in Voorheesville, NY 12186. At the time this book was published the author was chief horticulturist at the Morris Arboretum and in charge of the Arboretum Rose garden.
("Roses" Beales), "Roses" by Peter Beales, A John Macrae Book, Henry Holt and Company, New York 1992, ISBN 0-8050-2053-5, Borrowed from the Yonder Farms Library.
("Best Rose Guide" Phillips & Rix), "Best Rose Guide" by Roger Phillips & Martyn Rix, A Firefly Book, Firefly Books (US) Inc., P.O. Box 1338, Ellicott Station, Buffalo, New York 14205. 2004, ISBN 1-55297-844-3, Got it from the New book section at the Guilderland Library, Rt. 20 in Guilderland, NY on April 1, 2005. Dont know that its the best Guide but it has many fabtastic pictures. Am now on Gloire d'Orient ("Best Rose Guide" Phillips & Rix, 72, zone5(-20f)1856 Moss, 5 feet),
("Landscaping with Antique Roses" Druitt & Shoup), "Landscaping with Antique Roses" by Liz Druitt & G. Michael Shoup, The Taunton Press, Inc, 63 South Main Street, Box 5506, Newtown CT 06470-5506 1992. ISBN 0-942391-64-0. Got it from the Deleware Branch of the Albany Public Library in Albany, NY. Really good, shows pruning, training and pictures how it should be used in Landscape.
The following pages have thumbnail pictures: Alba Roses Gallica Roses Damask Roses Moss and Centifolia Roses Scottish Roses Kordesii & Explorer Roses Rugosa Roses Climbing & Rambler Roses Yellow flowered Roses White flowered roses Purple flowering roses Reddish colored flowers on roses Pinkish flowered roses Old Rose Rosebuy